Moving Forward...

I've said just about everything I have to say for now regarding the Ravelry situation, so I think it's time to close the comments. If something else happens, I'll come back and update.

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well. well. well...

Casey's latest statement on Ravelry leaves no doubt - we were banned solely because we are conservative and he is afraid of the members who ran around causing problems for us rather than have them obey the rules.

It's nice to have him finally come out and stop the bullshit excuse of "they were causing technical problems" and admit that he has no control over his own site.

Like I said before, the problems on Ravelry will never end until Casey and Jess decide to figure out how to run a community.

I know the truth and I know what happened, as does Casey - the rest has just been a gigantic CYA on his part. I know this because I was there - and for those commenters who keep trying to feed me the latest Ravelry line about what the Bunker did or didn't do... let me give you one of my favorite quotes...

"You don't know. You just don't know. You may think you know, but you don't know. And you never will."

Let me just say this...

Everything that is going on?

Could have been avoided a month ago with ONE email, yet the same mistake keeps getting made over and over. I guess sometimes people have to learn the hard way and then the even harder way.

Also, when someone extends their hand with a lifeline to escape the quicksand, it's not a good idea to turn them away because you are too proud to admit that you goofed up.

I'm done protecting you - you are going to have to live with the consequences of your actions. You and I both know what the truth really is.

And for the naysayers, haven't you learned by now that I have backup for everything? I don't post things without the proof. Screen-shots to follow tomorrow at the end of the day.

Get out your tinfoil hat...

Okay, this is now bordering on the absurd. Ravelry really needs to stop listening to the paranoid delusions of it's sycophants.

Here's the latest rumor - that the Bunkerites were planning an "attack" on Ravelry. Something like a "denial of service" attack or some other such idiocy such as that from our off-site board.

Absolutely 100% not true.

What we did on the Bunker off-site board was exactly what is done on the Rubberneckers and other boards ON Ravelry every single day. It's also what other groups do on their own off-site boards and through Plurk and Twitter. We linked to certain messages on Ravelry that piqued our interest and then commented about them. Some people joined in the discussion on Ravelry and some just clicked a few buttons. Most just read the Rav posts and then brought the discussion back to our own private board.

That's it - that's the "truly vile" thing that we are being accused of. Posting links on our board and actually clicking them.

If you are going to accuse a bunch of people of doing something "truly vile", then you had better have the proof to back it up and you don't because it doesn't exist.

Also... you might not want to get caught impersonating a lawyer - just some food for thought.

Hey, it's another screenshot!

Today's screenshot comes once again from Casey - it was a day or two after the Bunker closed and he and I was expressing my displeasure at his not at least having the courtesy of notifying me via email before he deleted the group (something he has now admitted would have been the more appropriate thing to do). I strongly objected to his smearing of the moderators, and especially me, because I had bent over backwards trying to work with them.

It looks like yet another hole has been blown in the "moderators wouldn't work with us" line of crap that keeps being spewed.

One of the things I keep coming back to in this whole "let's paint the BunkerBabes as troublemakers" line of propaganda is what happened on Ravelry right before the election. A week or so before election day, a "wall" was put up so that opposing groups couldn't post on each other's boards in order to eliminate the drama. What some people didn't realize was that "wall" was only one-way. Liberals were barred from posting on Conservative groups, but Conservatives didn't have that same restriction. The logical conclusion was that Casey knew where the problems were coming from - hence the one-way barring.

**just to note - I redacted some information in the above screenshot to protect them and because I didn't feel like looking at Casey's face the rest of the day **

And for the idiot liberals in the audience... the "please stop trashing us everywhere" was MY subject line to Casey - not his to me - so nice try - thanks for playing.

So the latest lie...

It seems that the latest story going around is that the former Bunker members were banned from Ravelry because we "coordinated attacks from offsite and disrupted the site" or some such crap as that.

That's a bunch of bull and a boldface lie.

If they have the proof, then produce it. They can't because there isn't any. All we ever did was nothing more than certain groups did ON and OFF Ravelry - point out certain posts to each other, click on the links, and then read, post, or click a button. OOOOOHHHHHH - I guess that's disruption. I think the Rubberneckers should be very worried.

I'm sorry that Ravelry doesn't like that some people have a problem with donations made for the use of the site go to idiotic purposes like carbon credits. That's the thread where the latest accusations of us "coordinating an attack offsite" came from this week - and Casey chose to buy into their paranoid delusions.

Let's just stop dancing around what really happened. Casey and Jess are liberals who have a bunch of liberal friends that didn't like us being on the site. They did everything in their power to cause trouble for us and complain at every turn. Rather than alienate their buddies and the rabid masses, Ravelry chose to get rid of us.

Here's a newsflash though - banning us won't stop the real problem that exists at Ravelry - poor community management. Maybe instead of drinking themselves silly at Boston bars this weekend or getting ridiculous crocheted "pasties" from their groupies, they should be taking seminars on how to manage their site.

So why am I doing this?

Why am I bring up something that was supposed to have been over weeks ago? Because I'm tired of getting shit on by the Rav PTB. When the Bunker closed, there were a lot of people VERY upset about it, but even after all that, I was still trying to work things out and ease the tensions. I don't dislike Ravelry, Casey, Jess, or MH - I just want the trashing of us to end.

I want people to know that there is another side and maybe prevent the crazy from threatening me again. That's what this is all about.